Thala-i' Khurasan: Sincerity is a sign of goodness, and now Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany is truly present in Khurasan. Going to the jihad arena is a blessing from the Lord and it is a great gift. What have been the impacts on your part and what encouraged you to pick up weapons in this land?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: All praises be to Allah for this blessing, and there is no other blessing that Allah has provided me after the blessings of Islam (that I love more than it).
About the question that you have posed O my beloved brother, the answer covers two things. The first one is that I love jihad and to die shaheed. The second answer relates to a general issue, i.e relating to the condition of the Islamic ummah.
About the first thing, my love for jihad and to die shaheed had already been instilled since I was small. I listened to the Qur’an in total khushoo’ and hoped to obtain the honor of jihad and die shaheed when I became young and an adult. I then asked myself the question: "Would I continue and remain loving jihad and seeking shahadah the moment I have become a man? Or would I become like the people around me; who consider jihad as only fiction and an action of the lunatics?".. May Allah protect us.
This love grows with me even though I had experienced setbacks in different phases of my life. This love for those who don’t understand would be considered as a disturbance to their lives and ruining their pleasures. And they would not understand my words, except the people who had been tested by it.
When you refelect the many ayats and hadiths that speak of jihad and its virtues, and then imagine and feel what have been promised by Allah to the shuhadas, you would become zuhd in everything (abstaining from everything else) except it. Big housess, luxurious cars and all the sparkles of the world will become lowly in your eyes compared to the dates that were thrown by 'Umair bin Al-Humam -radhiyallahu 'anhu- during his time while saying: "If I live till I finish eating these dates, indeed, that will be a long life", and then he attacked the mushrikeens until he was killed.
If this love for jihad has penetrated into the heart of a man, that love would never leave him even though he wants to forget it. And if he manages to forget it or if he suffers amnesia, then the condition would revolt and blow up. He would find himself surrounded by things mentioned about jihad. The news he hears on the radio about the amaliyah istishadiyah in Mosul would remind him of jihad. A news clip that shows the latest message by Sheikh Usamah would remind him of jihad, in fact it would remind him about the magnificent palaces, the dwellings of the shuhadas in the paradise of Firdaus. Even if he is obsessed by the beauty of his wife, the beautiful maidens that always wait for their husbands on the divans made of silk in paradise, would come to his mind. The entire pleasure that are not as much in this temporal world would remind him of his perfect companions in the eternal world that Allah has promised for His slaves, the shuhadas.
People of the past said: "And because of love, someone dies", I could not see it for real except in the love towards jihad. This love would kill you as a loss if you choose to keep silent, or would kill you as shaheed in the way of Allah if you choose to depart for jihad. And every one has no choice except one of these two deaths.
As for the general issue from my answer is concerning the condition suffered by the Islamic ummah today in terms of various miseries and slaughterings that caused the tears to shed and the hearts wounded. These are the images and stories that reach our sights and hearings, perhaps even the stones along with the humans could never bear it. Therefore, what is in the mind of you as a Muslim who had been given male names by the parents?
The sight of the Zionist women who are dressed but naked watching Gaza along with its population being burnt using their binoculars from a high ground was as if they were watching a comedy film or reviewing a natural phenomena.
Photos of children’s bodies piling up at the corridors of the hospitals and it was pictured in their lives a pure scene that had been smeared by cruelty to the extent that we could not differentiate if they were still alive or had already been dead!.. And before that, what had befallen the Red Masjid and how the students of Sheikh Abdul Rashid Ghazy -rahimahullah- were killed after they chose firmness of decision over choosing rukhshah (an exception to a general law, granted to preserve life or remove hardship), they did not leave even a piece of softness from the manliness of a Muslim on them, that would make them waver between the lowliness of keeping silent and the honor of departing for jihad.
Do the people, after all these incidents, expect that we would bring the remaining flowers and wear clothes of festivities? No way! By Allah we would not pick up anything except weapons and we would not wear anything except war cloaks and explosive belts.
"And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors.." (An-Nisa' 5:75).
Thala-i' Khurasan: One’s condition would change the moment the dusts of remaining silent had vanished from himself and he gathers with the lions in the battle arena, therefore, what has changed in your person after you have set foot in the land of jihad and i'dad?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: But say what has not changed in me? I was born here and I began to count days since I saw the first man who carried wepons. Though there are all kinds of hardships we encountered as Mujahideen, I feel pure happiness as if I feel myself being like a small kid who plays with his friends. I feel light from the variety of turmoils as if I am a butterfly that flies from one flower to another in a garden. How true are the words of Rasulullah SAW: "Jihad is a door amongst the doors of the great paradise, which by it Allah rescues one from distress and sadness."
My indignations towards the ahli takhdzil (people who have the attitude of trivializing, upsetting and neglecting the Muslims, thus create weakness in the ranks of the Muslims) and irja' (people who postpone and delay) has changed to become a feeling of sympathy, and my bad do’a for them has changed to become a do’a so that they will obtain hidayah, Allah has distanced them from getting the great benefits. By Allah if they come here, they would cry over their errors. All praises be to Allah, Who has protected us from the trials given to others.
The companionship of Allah that we felt along our way towards the Mujahideen was the best proof of the security of their manhaj. And what we witness here from the signs of robbany and their spiritual fineness also gave us glad tidings about their manhaj. At this particular moment I am enjoying this peacefulness and feeling the sweetness of this peacefulness. Our minds are not preoccupied except by two things: determination and sincerity, we beg for the help of Allah.
Thala-i' Khurasan: (Awaken their spirits and the holy spirit with you) and other hadiths that encourage jihad with spoken words and its big effects in helping Islam, why does not Abu Dujanah suffice himself with the jihad of this type while he had an active role in this field?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: How can I tahridh (incitate) people to conduct jihad while I am only sitting silently together with the people who are left behind? How can I sell perfumes while my odor is putrid? How can I become like a wick that burns itself for the sake of giving brightness? Can the mind accept it?
How can I run away from the verse of Allah Ta'ala: "Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things." (At-Taubah 9:39).
Jihad with the spoken words is required, jihad with the wealth is needed, however, both cannot fulfill the jihad with the lives, and also both cannot be made as a replacement for the duty of departing for jihad. Rasulullah SAW said: "If you are asked to depart for jihad, do it." Rasulullah SAW also said in a hadith which was made sahih by Hakim: "Carry out jihad upon the mushrik people with your wealth, your lives and your speeches," the 'atf letter (waw/and) here has the usage that the rulings for the three of them are the same, and Rasulullah SAW did not say: "with your wealth or with your lives or your speeches", by means of choosing. In fact, Allah Ta'ala prioritizes the command for fighting than the command for tahridh in His verse: "So fight in the cause of Allah; you are not held responsible except for yourself. And tahridh (inflame the spirit of) of the Mukmineen" (An-Nisa' 5:84). So jihad with the lives is a pure goodness. Even the when condition is mubah (religiously neutral) in the offensive jihad it has become my right to depart as there are rewards in it, so how is my condition now that jihad has become fardhu 'ain? Moreover, the departure of Muslims for jihad in the way of Allah will not prevent him from doing jihad with the speeches, but in fact it would strengthen and protect it, and nothing is more effective than words that are validated by actions. If a Muslim has a life like this, then he will be amongst the people whose deed are proving their words, and if he is killed in the path of Allah then indeed he will make his words eternal that would become a guidance along the way heading for jihad by the wills of Allah.
Thala-i' Khurasan: If that is the case, what would you advise the writers in the jihad forums and what would you say?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: I am advising them to depart for jihad in the way of Allah and don’t let satans deter them with false excuses from conducting jihad. So that they know that the monsters had done things as they please in many countries and they had committed corruptions. If you just see of what you had written about them on their backs, then they would find from your dien what is more striking than mere words, and that happens to the various corruptions and fitnahs that they spread in the streets, universities, and video, audio and printings mass media. And it is possible that anyone of us could still be in winded fantasy and becomes a negligent person, absent-minded. We ask protections from Allah.
By Allah if departing for jihad in the path of Allah does not have any benefit except to live in a plot of land where you would not see wickedness and munkar, indeed that is enough for you.. Reflect on it!!!
Thala-i' Khurasan: Earlier, we have presented a question about the themes in the jihad forums, so now we are asking how did Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany start his journey in the forum and what had strengthened his desire?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: By Allah my wound has broken open, my sickness was getting more hurting, and my sadness was getting deeper. I have left my brothers in the forum, whom I love more than my family, we pray to Allah so that He is willing to gather us in the paradise of Firdaus.
Regarding my journey: the forum of Al-Hesbah was my home, I have written an article that talked about the failure of Baghdad Agenda compared to the Falujah battle. I included the arguments from the true occurrences in it. A mushrif/moderator made my article as a part of the sticky thread. This had encouraged me to keep on writing. The reality is, the mushrifs in the forum always exterted their huge seriousness in monitoring and analyzing the postings in the forum, and they chose the most beneficial postings just as they choose the best fruits. This is what had made the forum of Al-Hesbah like a madrassa that produces writers in the level of experts such as Abdurrahman Al-Faqir, Yaman Mikhdhab, Thariq Abu Ziyad, and many more that would not be enough to mention here.
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In the past I was just an ordinary member in Hesbah until at one time an ikhwan offered me to become the mushrif in Hesbah. Alhamdulillah, I accepted the offer which allowed to get to know the ikhwans the likes of whom I have never met in other forums. Nearly no one knows about them, and no one says thank to them, but they hoped for the rewards from Allah Ta'ala. How many times I had felt myself inferior beside them. I felt amazed at how they could tazkiyah (purify) their selves and adorn their persons with the akhlaqs and attributes of the Mujahideen while they were not in the battle field? –thus what we hope and Allah is the One who judges them -. When I met a Mujahid here who seemed to know about the jihad forums, I immediately asked him about his knowledge of the Hesbah hoping that he was one of the mushrifs that we love because of Allah or a member, and I embraced him close to my chest, an embrace from a brother for his brother that he longed for.
Thala-i' Khurasan: Who are the people that have left an impact on you?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: Luwais 'Athiyyatullah, Muhibbur Rasul, and many more.
Thala-i' Khurasan: Now, you are already amongst the Mujahideen, how do you find their dien and jihad?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: How magnificent they are! Alien people and only with Allah are their rewards. I have written about them, and when meeting them my pen fell silent. Day by day, I have gone through it, my speeches were getting less than the days before that. I have learnt form them that silence is clearer than speeches. They are a people who are ‘a part of them is in heaven rejoicing’ and the rest are on earth while awaiting, and they are not changing it for even a bit.
I am so amazed at them. Why didn’t they cry in front of me when they mentioned the ikhwans who had been shaheed while they do not have a rule that forbid them from crying? If a name of someone who had been shaheed was mentioned in front of them, amongst the name that they know, you would find a tear freezing on their cheeks that looks like a droplet of mist on a beautiful rose. You would find a crying in their eyes that is more powerful than a whimper. Sometimes I feel sympathy with their conditions though I always want to continue listening to the stories about the journey of the warriors. If I see one of them starting to hold off, the pace getting slower and the breath beginning to gasp, unable to extingush the fire of yearning in his chest, I would be leaving him and go.. because if I did not do so, he would be doing it, that is why you would find most of their stories incomplete, at a loss to find the ending from their stories.
There was someone named Abdullah Azzam Al-Azdy here –he was killed a few months ago, we ask Allah to accept him-, however he was reluctant to leave them. One after another of the ikhwans had gone. When I heard about his akhlaq, his jihad and his tawadhu' (humility), I envied everyone who saw him and everyone who cried for him. I even wished that I could depart before he becomes shaheed so that I could meet him.
If you hear an ikhwan having an experience of jihad and he recounts his stories of jihad to you, and he begins to say: "Before, I was with Mr. So-and-so rahimahullah (may the mercy of Allah be on him), and Mr. So-and-so taqabbalahullah (may Allah accept him), and Abu Mr. So-and-so may Allah gather us with them in the Paradise of Firdaus," then you would feel as if he is not telling a story that had happened two years back, but as if he is telling a story about the battle of Badar or the fighting at Qadisiyah. And you would also find him like an enemy for the seconds and minutes that he spends on this earth that is far from his ikhwans except in terms of obdeience to Allah. I beg from Allah to give them what they are seeking.
As for their akhlaqs, tell about it and there is no sin in telling about it. A Mujahideen ikhwan prevented me from washing the dishes with an excuse that I am not worthy of washing it, so he washed those dishes himself. And if he saw me getting ready to cook, he stopped me with an excuse that I could not cook, so he would cook for us. I know that all that he did was for the sake of getting rewards from Allah for serving his ikhwans. That is what they want here!.. Sometimes I wakes up in the dead of the morning so that I could see him doing the cleaning and preparation without anyone watching him.
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There was an ikhwan who became our amir, when we gathered for dinner, I saw him slicing the meat from his potion and placing them in front of us until there was nothing left for him except bones and fatty parts. So I decided to not sit down with him while having meals so that I would not eat his potion again.
I met a non-Arab ikhwan in the arena and I have not met anyone whose dialect is heavier than his. He could not speak Arabic but a little. However, he tried to read books in Arabic. One day when I was walking nearby him, he was reading a book at that time, he called me from the distance. I approached him and he spoke to me in a face that looked cheerful, feeling happily: "Read O my brother this hadith that speaks about the virtues of jihad!", so I read it. He looked at me while smiling, and then he made do’a to Allah to give him shaheed. A few moments later he called me again: "Come here O my brother!", his face was like a full moon, then he read another hadith for me that had made him amazed at the virtues of jihad.. then he begged Allah for shaheed.
Everytime I saw his gleaming face, I asked myself: “Where are you O those of you who claim to be the 'allamah salafy and jahbadzil atsary?! Where are you O ulama's of the ummah who speak in a contradictive language from this man whose ‘ilm is limited but he came here reaffirming the words of his Rabb and Prophet, seeking death in Allah’s cause. By Allah, it is a hujjah for you O those of you who sit around in your comfortable homes amongst the peole who are fabricating excuses and despirited. Laa hawla wa laa quwwata illaa billah..”
Thala-i' Khurasan: In closing, what message do you want to say to the lions who are doing ribath at the frontiers of jihad by the media?
Abu Dujanah Al-Khurasany: I say to the ikhwans whom I love who are doing ribath at the frontiers of media jihad to immediately help their brothers the Mujahideen with your pens, your properties and your times. Throw away the dusts of futur (laziness of the heart) and faintness. By Allah, the situation is not pleasing, and the dogs of Haganah -zionist- have slaughtered us, shutting our jihad forums, and destroying the download links of the media jihad. Is their falsehood greater than your truth? Supposing you know your position next to your ikhwans, the Mujahideen, indeed your eyelids would not blink and your lives would not be good before you please their sights with the return of Hesbah, Ekhlaas, and Buraq. Would you be doing it while you already know?
And last from our calls is all praise be to Allah, the Rabb of all the worlds.